Month: August 2003

Or the misuse of our Faith

I am totally baffled by the large number of people supporting Alabama Supreme Chief Judge Roy Moore who has chosen to use the Christian Religion to propel his political ambitions. I am not confused by the Judge’s actions. His actions are easily recognized and our history has been filled with such desires. Judge Moore wants to go to Washington D. C. and hold office not very hard to figure out. Washington D. C. is a whorehouse with monuments. Most men go around with their penis in one hand and a fifth of whiskey in the other and most never know which is which. Our country has recognized the history of power mongering people and developed self governing system to deal with it. Ours in best known to man. On occasion it may need be corrected but seldom.

My disconcertion is the many, many Christians that wish to turn over my Lord and Savior over to these men and women to use as a tool. Proclaiming the word of God to assert their politicial power. The best known attempt of this political use of my religion was the use of text out of:

Genesis 9: 21 – 27
[21 Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent. 22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father’s nakedness. 24 So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him. 25 Then he said: “Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants He shall be to his brethren.” 26 And he said: “Blessed be the Lord, The God of Shem, And may Canaan be his servant. 27 May God enlarge Japheth, And may he dwell in the tents of Shem; And may Canaan be his servant.” ]

to justify their desire to keep African – Americans in involuntary servitude for 400 years. While we listen to the politicians spout the information we missed a very important spiritual principle that is given in this text.

Ask yourself if you are a Christian or a politician carrying a cross. If you are the latter, carry on, we know you and what you represent. If you say Jesus Christ is you Lord and Savior and you wish to propel political issues with spiritual principles, then remember the last time Jesus was turned over to politicians. We may wake up one Friday morning and look upon a cross and hear, “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do”. THEY WILL CRUCIFY HIM!!!!

This is a strong statement and language may be offensive
Author: harold

8/27/2003 12:35:09 AM
Daily Journal

Here we go again. Haven’t we learned anything from the current world situation? Take the Israelis and Palestinians, for instance. The death rate among those two groups has to be eclipsing the birth rate so that, with their current eye-for-an-eye foreign policy, in just a few years we should be down to just one aging Palestinian and one aging Israeli trying to gum each other to death.
All in the name of God.
And what about the Taliban and al Qaeda, not exactly two groups you’d want to invite over for a backyard barbecue. They’ve declared Holy War against the West, which is us, which makes you want to scream holy something you can’t say in the newspaper.
Then there are the Catholics and the Protestants in Ireland, the Chinese and the Buddhists in Tibet, Mississippi State vs. Ole Miss, and the Rastafarians who are too stoned to declare war but promise they’ll get around to it one day.
The point is, religion is to blame for much of the conflict in the world these days, with the possible exception of State and Ole Miss.
Not that religion itself is a bad thing. Religion, regardless of whether you worship a god or a piece of Elvis’ belly button lint, gives us hope, holds us to a moral code and gives us an excuse to dress up on Sunday mornings.
Where religion becomes a problem is when it is sanctioned by the state. That’s why we came here in the first place because we didn’t like King George’s official Church of England and because we didn’t want to be ruled by a guy who dressed funny and wore wigs.
Thank God yes, God that Madison, Jefferson, Adams and the rest recognized how incapacitating state-sanctioned religion could be to the free flow of ideas necessary in a democratic society.
So why can’t (former) Alabama Judge Roy Moore and his followers recognize that fact? In this country we’re free to worship anything we like, whether it’s Christianity or Bob Marley. But the state, the government, can’t endorse one religion over another.
In America, God is on equal footing with Muhammad, Buddha, and those people who worship the Manning family, at least in the eyes of the government.
You’d think a man who has a law degree and has risen to the high office of chief justice even in Alabama would know that. Which makes you wonder what Moore’s real motives are in his continued defiance of a court order to remove his massive Ten Commandments monument from the judicial complex.
I say we give him back his monument it’ll make a nice paperweight and send him on his way, hopefully, into obscurity.Copied from The Daily Journal

because it is my thought exactly
Author: harold

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This story may have taken place in Kentucky

Way down in dat old swamp known as Louisiana, Bubba’s old lady had been pregnant for some time, and now the time had come. So, he
brought her to the doctor, and the doctor began to deliver the baby.She had a little boy, and the doctor looked over at Bubba and said, “Hey, Bubba! You just had you a son!” Aint dat grand!!

Bubba got excited by this, but just then the doctor spoke up and said, “Hold on! We ain’t finished yet!” The doctor then delivered a little girl. He said, “Hey, Bubba! You got you a daughter!!!!
She a pretty lil ting, too….”

Bubba got kind of puzzled by this, and then the doctor said, “Hold on, we still ain’t got done yet!” The doctor then delivered another boy and said, “Bubba, you just had yourself another boy!

When Bubba and his wife went home with their three children, he sat down with his wife and said, “Mama, you remember dat night what we ran out of Vaseline and we had to use dat dere 3-in-1 Oil?”

She said, “Yeah, I do.”

Bubba said, “Man, it’s a damn good ting we didn’t use no WD-40!

Author: harold

By GINA HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court cleared the way Wednesday for a Ten Commandments monument to be removed from an Alabama court building, but an attorney for the judge who installed the display said he would not move the monument.
Slideshow: Ala. Justice Fights to Display Commandments The justices rejected Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore’s emergency appeal, refusing to be drawn into a dispute over whether the monument violates the Constitution’s ban on government promotion of religion.

Moore installed the 5,300-pound stone monument in the rotunda of the judicial building in the state capital of Montgomery two years ago after being elected chief justice following a campaign in which he touted his support of the Ten Commandments.

The Supreme Court was Moore’s last hope to avoid a federal judge’s midnight Wednesday deadline to remove the display. One of Moore’s attorneys, Phillip Jauregui, said that the judge was sticking by his pledge to defy the order. “The statement that the chief made last Thursday still stands,” Jauregui said.

Other state officials could move the monument.

U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson has said he may fine the state about $5,000 a day for contempt if the display is not moved by the end of the day. Thompson was scheduled to have a conference call with attorneys in the case later this week.

Moore’s lawyers told justices in a filing that he should be allowed to “establish justice by acknowledging the guidance and favor of Almighty God, placed upon him by his oath of office and the Constitution of Alabama.”

The Supreme Court has never ruled on the constitutionality of such indoor and outdoor government displays. The justices did not rule Wednesday on legal arguments raised by Moore. The court said in a one-sentence order that his request for a stay was rejected.

It would be unusual for a Supreme Court order to be ignored.

“Every single level of the federal court system has now rebuffed him (Moore), you would think he would show some respect for the court’s order,” said Ayesha Khan, legal director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, one of the groups that sued over the display. “He’s always taken the position that he’s above the law.”

An appeals court had twice refused to give Moore a stay, setting up the plea at the high court.

“It’s not like somebody’s about to face execution, if the court doesn’t enter a stay the person will be dead and the appeal will be moot,” said David Frederick, a Washington attorney who specializes in Supreme Court practice. “If the Supreme Court were to decide it’s constitutional, it can always be put back.”

Moore already has asked the Supreme Court to consider whether Thompson overstepped his bounds in the case, and a second appeal of the ruling in the Ten Commandments case is expected. Those could take months to resolve.

In Alabama, supporters of Moore gathered on the judicial building steps and stopped to pray at times, while commandment opponents, anti-tax protesters and onlookers mingled near the front entrance to the building, which was ringed by television news satellite trucks.
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Author: harold

From my observations at a kiddy park in Portland, OR
My wife, my son, & I took our grand children to a kiddy park. I met a young lady tending to two children, one about 8 years old, the other in diapers. The lady was friendly and I asked if the children belong to her. She stated in English with heavy Hispanic accent, she was a Nanny for the two. She also stated in very poor English she was a landed emigrant, been her two years. Also so stated she had a three year old in day care.

Now that is what I call a family unit. I bet the homosexuals did it.

Weirdharold says maybe greed

Author: harold

Check out this article at the Guardian (a British news site). Apparently, a large number of Iraqi civilians are being held in makeshift jails, many in very bad conditions. There are also reports of many children being among the prisoners. This is something that you probably won’t see in the mainstream American media. We can’t reveal anything bad about the occupation in Iraq.

There are a couple of good quotes in this article. My favorite is “The message is that things are getting better. But the occupation forces’ shocking handling of civilian prisoners will not be forgotten quickly by the victims. They are one more example of how badly those who planned the war on Iraq failed to plan the peace.”

Author: jonathan

Letter to Editor Daily Journal 8/10/2003
Respose belowI am reading the letters to the editor in the Daily Journal. I find one letter titled: Some Baptists are just Plain old Liberals.

The author of this piece thinks the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship is a liberal group of Baptist spreading a false message across the land. The writer also faults the conservative Southern Baptist Convention for not speaking out against. I fault not the author upon his views, but he uses 1 Peter 5: 8 as to validate his point.

1 Peter 5: 8, Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”

My thinking is, “ looking for the devil from without, is as dangerous as looking for gods from without. Placing faith in men not God. Faith that is based on methodology not actions is doomed to fail.” The devil will destory from within, we need look not far.

Author: harold

I was cleaning out some old files today and ran across this –thought it was very pertinent to what’s going on in the world today:

“A tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some time be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

— C.S. Lewis

Author: LadyDi

The religious bigots that wish to fight Gay and Lesbians groups right to the same benefits all enjoy are joined at the hip with the racists that fought for 100 years to keep Blacks from the same benefitsThey do not read spiritual material pertinent to the issue nor do the interrupt what they read in the context that it was written.

Luke 15 11 And he said, A certain man had two sons: 12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living. I do not think the Bible researcher need to go any further to find the answer to the hard fought dilemma. The passage of scripture was written in red and I do not think I have to say who said it.

To those that choose to deny the right and benefits are acting outside the Grace of God. Whether other are will fall upon God to decide. Other spiritual material says, “But with the *********, whose hope is the maintenance and growth of a spiritual experience, this business of resentment is infinitely grave. We found that it is fatal. For when harboring such feeling we shut ourselves off from the sunlight of the Spirit”

Spiritually cannot be of benefits when we fight. This issue much be sorted out in God’s way. I just wish the Pope and a whole bunch of religious leaders would just get it and stop playing these silly little political games.

Signed

Weirdharold, straight and intolerant of intolerant people
Author: harold